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Ganel-Lyn Condie is a popular speaker, host, and author. She is a mental health advocate, social commentator, and faith warrior. Her latest book is The Stewardship Principle.
01:50 Introduction to Ganel-Lyn
05:15 Ganel-Lyn talks about her new book, The Stewardship Principle
13:30 What is stewardship? It is everything. Stewardships are not always fun or something that we want.
15:00 Leadership stewardships. Some leadership stewardships are more celebrated than others.
17:00 Some stewardships are hard and painful. Some are invisible and nobody cares. Others are visual, obvious, and that people sustain.
17:30 Ganel-Lyn shares her own stewardships and personal losses
18:50 Different stewardships are more intense but others that are more quiet are equally important.
21:00 The opposite of stewardship is ownership. The quickest way to understand stewardship is parenting.
23:00 Examples of stewardship vs ownership. Ownership starts to take away agency in parenting and in leadership.
27:00 How do you tell if you have an ownership mentality?
- Praying away someone else’s agency
- Being hyper focused on outcomes
29:30 Stewardship thinking is offering based. Ownership thinking is outcome focused.
32:15 How can we refocus on stewardship and let go of ownership?
38:00 We have calling changes and pass the stewardship around. That way we don’t stay stuck in traditions and get introduced to new perspectives.
39:15 So many people have left our church because they were in ownership mode for so long. We do so much ‘’doing’’ and it doesn’t always turn out.
40:20 Ask your child, your companion, or people in your ward what support looks like.
41:30 Kurt shares a story about stewardship
44:15 When we start to see what our friends and family are going through as a stewardship, it allows us to validate them more but also helps us understand that we don’t have to fix it or save them.
44:50 Understanding stewardship doesn’t take away the pain or hurt from a situation but it teaches us that God is not punishing us. The hard thing that you are going through can still be consecrated for your good.
47:55 Dealing with infertility and all the rude things that people say. People act as if we are more righteous then it will solve our problems.
49:00 The story of Job. All of Job’s friends had opinions on why he was losing everything. We can have hope though because everything that Job lost was returned plus more.
51:10 Stewardship doesn’t always have to be hard. Stewardship helps you appreciate the good stuff too.
54:00 We don’t have to be everything for everyone. Our stewardships can be very different at different times in our lives and we shouldn’t compare our stewardships with others.
57:15 Don’t underestimate how your stewarding is influencing and inspiring others in their own stewardships.
1:00:50 Remember that Christ owns it. He has just entrusted you with this stewardship.
The Stewardship Principle: Reframing Your Life
A Night of Hope: Benefit Concert Featuring Nathan Pacheco
Real Talk: Come Follow Me
Getting Real about Come Follow Me | An Interview with Ganel-Lyn Condie and Scott Sorensen
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The part about having hope in the Job story BECAUSE the Lord returned everything that was lost plus some (in this life) is not correct. We have hope because we trust the Lord—not that we trust the Lord to give us what we want. Otherwise those who are never blessed in this life would never be able to have hope. Some never get their miracles or their blessings in this life.
Stacey, this is such an important point. Ganel-Lyn was saying exactly that, and not suggesting that we get what we want or that it will be in this earth life. We learn from Job that we can have hope because as we live with faith in our stewardships, God will give us recompense, somehow, even though who don’t know when or how. In Job’s case it did happen in this life, because that is his story for us to learn from, but she continued, “I don’t know how God will work it all for my good, all the time. But Job teaches us that He does.” The lesson is to live in stewardship and know that God sees it and somehow, sometime, will bless us for that.
This is a really good interview. I believe that the concept of stewardship as Ganel-Lyn describes is the primary purpose of this life. It fits in perfectly with the Eve and Adam’s choice to partake of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. When Eve and Adam passed through that door, it was to find out or gain knowledge by experience in a mortal world in a mortal body and allow all who followed to do the same.
The atonement of Jesus Christ anticipated the woundedness caused by such experiences to gain knowledge. The doctrine of the atonement of Jesus Christ gives us hope in this life and the next to be healed of that woundedness, made whole, and cleansed so we can come into the presence of God to report on what we have learned and what we have become throught the mortal experience.
The covenant promises, the gifts of the Spirit, marvelous revelations and miracles are for everyone in our individual stewardships (e.g. personal circumstances). Such things are not exclusive to those called to “leadership callings” in the Church and can in fact far exceed them if we seek for them. I believe the reason we often associate such things with “leadership callings” is because those are the stories told. But the scriptures have plenty of stories of people without “leadership callings” living life who have such experiences and blessings.
This is an important reframing of how we can look at life’s purpose as well as how to approach the experiences of mortality. This concept of stewardship goes far beyond Church callings or even Church membership which is not a necessary box to check in mortality in order to receive exaltation.
Do you guys have any plans to transcribe this episode? 🙂
The transcript is in the LINKS section!