Sara Brewer is a certified life coach and a Latter-day Saint who helps people quit porn. She is also the host of the Overcome Pornography for Good podcast, a fast-growing podcast about quitting porn, with over 400 5-star reviews. Her tag line is “shame-free and sex-positive” and her methods center around mindfulness, emotional management and resiliency, growth mindset, and identity creation. Outside of her full-time work as a coach, Sara is the mom of two toddlers and married to her high school sweetheart.

In this podcast, Sara shares a presentation that is now part of the Liberating Saints Virtual Conference.

Sara Brewer


02:50 Introduction to Sara Brewer, a life coach for people that struggle with pornography use.

05:15 Sara helps both men and women with pornography.

06:15 Sara introduces her presentation and the main root causes.

07:20 The first root of pornography use is ESCAPE AND BUFFERING.

  • Buffering is an action to escape negative emotion.
  • People try to put on a “bandaid” solution on porn. They don’t deal with their emotions.
  • People need to learn to sit with their emotions and focus on healing wounds.

14:00 Shame only makes porn use worse. A lot of members get into a shame cycle with porn use and it never ends.

16:10 The difference between guilt and shame. Holding onto guilt turns into shame.

17:00 It’s not either shame or justification. There are middle ground emotions that are going to be more useful in helping people quit.

18:00 It’s important to differentiate physiology and morality.

  • We all have urges and sexual desires. This is physiology and part of being human.
  • Morality comes from what we do with our desires.

20:10 Application for leaders. Be careful with punishment and adding to shame.

21:10 Leaders need to stop focusing on behavior but underlying emotions.

22:00 Using a filter is a good tool to use but it’s not a long-term solution for porn use and addiction.

25:30 Guilt should not be a motivator. It’s more of a signal that something doesn’t align with our values.

26:40 Root two is OVER DESIRE.

  • Over desire is something that is learned and can be unlearned.
  • It’s your brain and reward system working correctly.
  • Avoiding urges isn’t going to solve the porn problem.
  • Pavlov’s dog theory and what it teaches us about learning and unlearning behaviors.

32:00 Willpower doesn’t work. It’s like holding a beach ball under water. It wants to pop up. Allow the urges and emotions to pass through without getting the reward.

35:20 Sara’s technique to help people overcome over desire for porn. Stop, drop, and breathe.

38:20 Applications for leaders

  • Stop telling people they will struggle with this forever.
  • Avoid all or nothing thinking. Slip ups don’t mean you have to start over.
  • Stop demonizing sexuality. It’s very normal to want sex and to have urges.
  • Avoid saying that more prayer, fasting, and righteousness will fix this. Instead, focus on healing.

40:10 Instead of distracting yourself, sit with the emotions.

44:40 Too often we hear a lot of all or nothing phrases in the bishop’s office. If you can go x amount of days without porn then you can take the sacrament.

46:00 Root three is IDENTITY.

47:10 How we think about ourselves really matters. It gives us energy for our actions.

48:20 Not everyone that uses porn has an addiction. Most young men and women are not addicted. Be careful about labeling people with an addiction. It can be harmful to them.

50:00 Applications for leaders

  • Avoid fostering an addiction mindset which is an I can’t change mindset.
  • Avoid labeling people with an addiction.
  • Avoid members feeling hopeless and stuck.
  • Help members foster an identity of someone that quits porn.

55:20 Bishops should consider sending people to a life coach. They shouldn’t dismiss life coaches. They can work side by side with therapists.

59:20 Sara has many resources for members. She offers programs with group calls or one on one appointments.

1:01:00 Sara’s final encouragement to leaders who are trying to help those that are struggling with pornography


Watch the video with 14-day access to the Core Leader Library, including the entire Liberating Saints Virtual Conference
It Isn’t a Sin to Be Weak, by Wendy Ulrich
Worthiness is not Flawlessness, by Brad Wilcox
Helpful episodes from Sara’s podcast that focus on the stop, drop, and breathe technique: Episodes 66, 47, 21
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