This episode is a conversation from the One Heart One Light podcast with Matt Allred, where Kurt talks about the power of story and how we can connect and find healing through our stories.


03:25 Introduction to Kurt Francom

04:40 Kurt talks about his path to starting Leading Saints.

10:30 The most important thing that Kurt has learned as a leader

14:20 Master the skill of connecting. Connecting person to person.

15:00 How do you get people to open up and connect with you?

18:00 Most people want to share more but they don’t feel safe. As a leader you can help create a safe space for people to share and open up.

23:45 Worried about oversharing? Share the past transgression because that also shares the past redemption.

24:50 After Christ’s resurrection He shared his scars. Just as it was important for Christ to share His scars, it’s important for us to share our own scars.

30:45 What does it mean to bear each other’s burdens?

32:30 Kurt shares his own personal experience of reaching out to a friend going through a hard time. He has learned to just be present with them.

34:15 Oftentimes we feel shame just as Adam did in the Garden of Eden and hide from God and others. God is calling out, “where are you?”

38:00 While service is also a part of bearing other’s burdens, it means so much more when you also have a great connection with that person. You have sat with them and listened to their story.

38:40 What’s the value of brotherhood? There is a hole in our hearts that can only be filled with brotherhood.

47:10 Kurt talks about where he plans to go with Leading Saints and his vision for it.

50:30 Kurt speaks to what he thinks building Zion looks like and what we need to do to get there.


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