Tony Overbay is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, a Certified Mindful Habit Coach, and a popular motivational speaker. Tony regularly speaks at corporate training events, schools, and churches in formal and casual settings mixing humor, clinical experience, his Christian faith, and a wealth of personal stories gleaned from years of helping others achieve their goals.
This is part 1 of a 2-part podcast discussion.


2:40 Introduction

5:30 Tony’s background and his story of becoming a therapist

13:50 Tony talks about his background helping people with pornography addictions.

17:00 Shame hasn’t helped anyone in their recovery from porn

18:45 Tony talks about the most common problems people come to him with

22:15 The types of clients that Tony normally works with

25:45 Tony explains how he helps his clients and how a lot of times it leads to the topic of emotional immaturity and narcissism

28:00 Tony’s new podcast, Waking Up to Narcissism

31:15 Is it easier for people to walk into a therapist’s office or a bishop’s office?

34:30 Tony shares an experience he had training Bishops in his stake about Fowler’s stages of faith and his 4 pillars of a connected conversation. He shares what he thinks bishops should know and understand when trying to help people.


PART 2 of this podcast
Unhealthy Ways We Seek Validation As Leaders | An Interview with Tony Overbay
The Bishop’s Strongest Tools to Help Addicts | An Interview with Tony Overbay
Tony’s podcasts
The Path Back: Overcoming Pornography
The Magnetic Marriage Course
Tony’s PDF of James Fowler’s Stages of Faith Development
Why Am I the Last Person to Know What to Do with My Life?
Am I the Narcissist? Exploring Narcissistic Traits and Tendencies
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